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Cacheelma · Jan 31, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Put it in the /age command where no one else can see it.

Problem solved.

Obviously that's not what the OP wants. You didn't actually solve anything. Sorry.

Malice Black · Jan 31, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

I dunno...I'd swap 4&5 tbh

baz777 · Jan 31, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

I dunno...I'd swap 4&5 tbh

I'll intoduce you to wife, 5 stays where it is

ensoriki · Jan 31, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by KANE OG

Our "real" level is shown by kicking someone elses ass.

KANE

Im not kicking any dude in the ass
They might have skid marks

Abedeus · Jan 31, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17

What if someone is a gal? I can't kick a dudie in her butt, that's harassment.

And they can kick me back, in a much worse place.

And still... I would to see that someone is OVER NINE HUNDRED!!!! level.

Kusandaa · Jan 31, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Would filter some bad players, but not the a-hole type of players - as much as he's got experience, he's still an a-hole that likes to make you look like crap for his own e-peen.

However, still might not show "skill" - I play a lot on my necromancer (nearly 15 million exp) while I don't play my nuker much (I think I did hit the 1 million mark a few weeks back). Doesn't mean I can't play a decent nuker.

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Only bad players don't PUG.

Explain why I encounter Healing Hands+Vig. spirit+Healing Breeze W/Mo's in FoW, who think they're the best thing since sliced bread and whine at you, saying you're a noob for not letting him run that in a high enchantment strip/shatter area.

I don't know, but I'd rather run with my guildies who know what they're doing - therefore are good - than facing yet another HH wammo, which is often a bad thing...

Nemo the Capitalist · Jan 31, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by Kiragi Yagami

/win.

i think its a pretty good idea, though it will certainly increase player elitism.
"ZOMFG NUB YOURE ONLY 2M EXP IM 900M ROFFLE". [/asshole]

maybe some small thing like a title or an emote for experience gained.

exactly why i hate gw community statement above

Crom The Pale · Jan 31, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

PvP is Skill > Time.
PvE is Time > Skill.

Not really sure why so many people have a hard time figuring that out.

There is a reason they added Birthday Presents to the game......now if they had customized them then they might be used as a means of showing off the true age/level of a char. Since they can be bought and sold they serve no purpose now, except for the HoM.

While we do already have titles to show off individual accomplishments, Protector/Guardian/Vanquisher/Skill Caping/Cartographer, what I think the OP is asking for is a single means of summing up all of our chars accomplishments at once.

Isileth · Jan 31, 2008, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

PvP is Skill > Time.
PvE is Time > Skill.

Not really sure why so many people have a hard time figuring that out.

Well a lot of people dislike that.
Especially as it was advertised as skill>time (PvE included)

Limu Tolkki · Jan 31, 2008, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Something like this is needed tbh. However it should be accountwide and not lvls you get by getting xp as its too easy to get a lot of xp and no experience. Accountwide titles w/o benefits would be the thing.

Olim Chill · Jan 31, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Only bad players don't PUG.

*Bzzzz* incorrect. Next.

ensoriki · Jan 31, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

PvP is Skill > Time.
PvE is Time > Skill.

Wrong
it's

Guild wars Time > skill
Guild wars pvp 1/2 time 1/2 skill or something like that

You know. Rank can take some time to get, unlocking all pvp skills.
Glad Points, Hero whatever points
Obsidian armor, Jesus sword, etc.

EmptySkull · Jan 31, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

PvP is Skill > Time.
PvE is Time > Skill.

Not really sure why so many people have a hard time figuring that out.

snipp...

QFT. I don't to this day understand why people can't wrap their minds around this. With PvE anytime you can repeat something over and over you will eventual succeed. Even if you are the worst player. I will stipulate with tactics and if you do have skill you will be faster or more proficient in PvE. But there is no Skill required to PvE. But PvP you have to know the game. You have to have that something extra to suceed in PvP. Since everyone is on the same level equipment-wise, level, skill, etc ....

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Originally Posted by baz777

Agree with Malice

1. Guildies
2. Hero/Hench
3. Stick red hot pins in my eyes
4. Pluck out my pubic hair with tweezers
5. Ask the wife if she needs any money
6. PUG

Thank you for my belly laugh of the day. Although if you meet my EX-wife one might put PuG'ing ahead of her!!

Bryant Again · Jan 31, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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Originally Posted by EmptySkull

QFT. I don't to this day understand why people can't wrap their minds around this. With PvE anytime you can repeat something over and over you will eventual succeed.

If you're build sucks, you're not going to get very far. Like PvP, you have to know what to do and know what works.

Ctb · Jan 31, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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How do you work that out?

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Agree with Malice...

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Explain why I encounter...

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*Bzzzz* incorrect. Next.

I was being facetious.

In other words: Hey smart guy, if you're going to take the time to post an opinion, at least spend the extra minute to provide a sentence or two to support it.

Magikarp · Jan 31, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

horrible idea once you realize how many of us are well over 10 mill from just farming....

my warrior and sin have some disturbing amount of exp, and im sure others do too... and tbh, that doesnt constitue REAL exp. ANYONE can farm for hours on in mindlessly....

EmptySkull · Jan 31, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

If you're build sucks, you're not going to get very far. Like PvP, you have to know what to do and know what works.

Maybe you're right in, Hard mode. But in normal mode you would be fine with most anything. And if you include the rest of my post with what you quoted:

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I will stipulate with tactics and if you do have skill you will be faster or more proficient in PvE. But there is no Skill required to PvE.

That word I bolded is the main part of my post. In PvE Skill is not required. But over time you will suceed. Most people will succeed with bad builds by joining pugs and advancing on that pug's coattails. And that one person is usually why pug groups can be horrible. And yes learning will make you better but it is not required.
I stand by my opinion though. In PvE, skill is not required. Therefore Time>Skill. But in PvP skill is required to be good. Because skill is the only real variable there. So the more Skill you have > than the time you have played. Everything else is balanced.
For example. One could purchase Guild wars and purchase all the PvP packs. They will be equal to everyone else. The only variable will be how they know the game. After practice they will get better by honing their knowledge or "Skill". Then take a person that plays PvE. He has 1000's of hours played like myself. I have equal equipment. I am 99.9% uax. I would get owned in PvP, because I don't know the game like that person who only purchased the PvP game. Sure I have skill against PvE monsters but I don't have real skill against another human. I could learn it. It would be required for me to do so if I want to succeed in PvP.

So this is really why showing what your true level with xp would be moot in GW. Because after level 20 it doesn't mean anything. Although now after I have gotten a very high virtual level on my main, it would be for vanity, cool to display my level 600+. It wouldn't add to anything but just that, vanity.

Bryant Again · Jan 31, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

I left out your other statement because it was a bit empty: How is skill not "required" in PvE?

Skill in PvE is vastly different than PvP, I will say that. In PvE, if your team build sucks then you won't do so well. If you don't know what to do in a mission, you won't do so well.

In PvE it's less a matter of skill and more a matter of knowledge. You have to know the overall working of an area so you know what build you should bring, you have to know how to do the mission, what the requirements are for a bonus, what builds work in PvE, and so on and so forth.

One could say "oh that's easy, all you need to know is all this stuff!", well that's a whole lot of stuff to learn. And if it was so easy to learn then pugs wouldn't be largely associated with failure.

hurdlebeast · Jan 31, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Hmm a title that includes:

Experience
PlayTime on character
Total Play time on account
Titles
Amount of quests done
Pvp Faction Amount

Those then convert in to 1 title? Or lvl, or something else. That be nice yeah.

Would be interesting. Could be real lvl of account, and real lvl of char.

even better: a total xp/hour type deal. shows not only amount of time played, but also amount of xp gained during those hours. otherwise ppl will go afk for 10 hours at a time to jack up their stats.

MithranArkanere · Jan 31, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Just time and XP won't do. Thanks to farmers...
The missions, quests, etc made should count to the equation too.